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The FourBlock Podcast

Jun 21, 2021

This week, FourBlock Founder Mike Abrams welcomes finance and entertainment executive Mark Konjevod to the podcast for a powerful two-part conversation about Mark’s unique career path and his incredible relationship with Medal of Honor recipient Walter (Walt) D. Ehlers.  

In Part I, Mark recounts the amazing story of how he came to meet United States Army soldier and World War II Medal of Honor recipient Walt Ehlers and shares some of the lessons and values he learned from the unique relationship that developed between them over the years.    

Mark holds a B.A. in Political Science and History from the University of Colorado, Boulder, where he also played for their Division I Varsity football team. Mark also holds an MBA in Finance from the University of Chicago Booth School of Business. He served for seven years as a member of the Board of Trustees of the National World War II Museum in New Orleans, LA. 


Welcome to the FourBlock Podcast, a show that examines veteran career transition and the military-civilian divide in the workplace.

General Charles Krulak coined the term "Three Block War" to describe the nature of 21st-century military service defined by peace-keeping, humanitarian aid, and full combat.

But what happens next? Veterans are often unprepared to return home and begin new careers. We call this the Fourth Block. 

FourBlock is a national non-profit that has supported thousands of transitioning service members across the nation in beginning new and meaningful careers. 

Mike Abrams (@fourblock) is an Afghanistan veteran, founder of FourBlock, and author of two military transition books. He represents the military transition perspective.

Lindsey Pollak (@lindsaypollak) is a career and workplace expert and New York Times bestselling author of three career advice books. Lindsey represents the civilian perspective of this issue. 

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Podcast episodes are produced and edited by the Columbia University Center for Veteran Transition and Integration.