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The FourBlock Podcast

Oct 18, 2021

This week on The FourBlock Podcast, we are sharing a conversation that co-host and FourBlock Founder Mike Abrams had recently with Sarah Roberts and Darren Sumter during a session of FourBlock's Fall 2021 West Coast Career Readiness Program. Darren is a Global Account Manager for LinkedIn and a member of FourBlock's Board of Directors. Sarah is LinkedIn's Head of Military and Veteran Programs.

Over the course of this discussion, Saran and Darren discuss their transitions from active service, talk about career opportunities at LinkedIn, and share some career transition best practices.  



Welcome to the FourBlock Podcast, a show that examines veteran career transition and the military-civilian divide in the workplace.

General Charles Krulak coined the term "Three Block War" to describe the nature of 21st-century military service defined by peace-keeping, humanitarian aid, and full combat.

But what happens next? Veterans are often unprepared to return home and begin new careers. We call this the Fourth Block. 

FourBlock is a national non-profit that has supported thousands of transitioning service members across the nation in beginning new and meaningful careers. 

Mike Abrams (@fourblock) is an Afghanistan veteran, founder of FourBlock, and author of two military transition books. He represents the military transition perspective.

Lindsey Pollak (@lindsaypollak) is a career and workplace expert and New York Times bestselling author of three career advice books. Lindsey represents the civilian perspective of this issue. 

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Podcast episodes are produced and edited by the Columbia University Center for Veteran Transition and Integration.