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The FourBlock Podcast

Apr 27, 2020

This week, leadership and human resources consultant Mike Dunford joins host Mike Abrams to discuss the impact of the COVID-19 pandemic on the current business environment and how the nature of work will change; share behind-the-scenes insights into the corporate hiring and recruiting process; and provide actionable advice for veterans seeking employment.

Mike is a retired Marine Corps Reserve Officer and veteran of the Multinational Peacekeeping Force in Beirut, Lebanon in Operations Desert Shield and Desert Storm. In addition to his role as a veteran advocate, Mike is currently a leadership and human resources consultant who served as the Chief Human Resources Officer and Senior Vice President of Human Resources for Covidien, an $11-billion global medical device company with 38,000 employees operating in more than 70 countries. Following the acquisition of Covidien in 2015, he founded the Dunford Consulting Group, focused on leadership development, executive coaching, and the development and execution of talent strategies. 

Mike serves as an advisor and member on several boards, including Mercy Health in Cincinnati, Edge4Vets, the Human Resources Leadership Forum, Year Up Providence, and the Cape and Islands Veterans Outreach Center in Massachusetts. He is a Career Readiness Instructor for FourBlock in Boston and co-chairs FourBlock’s National Leadership Council. He also serves on the Steering Committee of the Greater Boston Veterans Collaborative and leads the Employment work group.  


Welcome to the FourBlock Podcast, a show that examines veteran career transition and the military-civilian divide in the workplace.

General Charles Krulak coined the term "Three Block War" to describe the nature of 21st-century military service defined by peace-keeping, humanitarian aid, and full combat.

But what happens next? Veterans are often unprepared to return home and begin new careers. We call this the Fourth Block. 

FourBlock is a national non-profit that has supported thousands of transitioning service members across the nation in beginning new and meaningful careers. 

Mike Abrams (@fourblock) is an Afghanistan veteran, FourBlock founder, director of the Columbia University Center for Veteran Transition and Integration, and author of two military transition books. He’ll be representing the military transition perspective.

Lindsey Pollak (@lindsaypollak) is a career and workplace expert and New York Times bestselling author of three career advice books. Lindsey will be representing the civilian perspective of this issue. 

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