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The FourBlock Podcast

Oct 5, 2020

This week, Colonel Bill Murray joins FourBlock Founder Mike Abrams to take a deep dive into the real estate industry, sharing expert insights and actionable advice for any prospective homeowners, investors, or real estate professionals.

Bill spent 28 years in the Marine Corps as a CH-53 heavy lift helicopter pilot, holding nearly every command within the wing and culminating as the commanding officer of the Marine Aircraft Group 24 based out of Kaneohe Bay, HI, where he led thousands of Marines and sailors in missions throughout the Pacific and around the globe.

Throughout his time on active duty and continuing today, Bill also owns and manages RTR Property Group, where he works with a team of real estate professionals to locate, purchase, and develop real estate throughout the United States. Past investments have included residential, industrial, and commercial properties valued in the millions of dollars. Bill also serves as the Chairman of the FourBlock Board of Directors and is one of our founding Board Members.


Welcome to the FourBlock Podcast, a show that examines veteran career transition and the military-civilian divide in the workplace.

General Charles Krulak coined the term "Three Block War" to describe the nature of 21st-century military service defined by peace-keeping, humanitarian aid, and full combat.

But what happens next? Veterans are often unprepared to return home and begin new careers. We call this the Fourth Block. 

FourBlock is a national non-profit that has supported thousands of transitioning service members across the nation in beginning new and meaningful careers. 

Mike Abrams (@fourblock) is an Afghanistan veteran, FourBlock founder, director of the Columbia University Center for Veteran Transition and Integration, and author of two military transition books. He’ll be representing the military transition perspective.

Lindsey Pollak (@lindsaypollak) is a career and workplace expert and New York Times bestselling author of three career advice books. Lindsey will be representing the civilian perspective of this issue. 

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