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The FourBlock Podcast

May 18, 2020

This week, we welcome back Pat Hubbell and Peter Sukits, the co-founders of Candorful, a non-profit organization that connects transitioning service members with experienced interview coaches for live personal job interview practice sessions. The final episode in a four-part series is a must-listen for interviewers, hiring managers, HR staff, and business owners. Pat and Peter join hosts Lindsey Pollak and Mike Abrams to discuss what veterans wish employers knew before interviewing them.

Over the course of the series, Pat and Peter discuss what they’ve learned working with hundreds of veterans and employers; the biggest mistake veterans make going into an interview; how veterans can best prepare for a job interview; and what veterans wish employers knew before interviewing them.

Pat is the executive director of Candorful and has over 17 years of experience coaching soldiers, veterans, and young professionals with career transitions at Cornell, PRTM (which is now PwC), and Keystone Strategy. She has an SM/MBA from MIT Sloan and a BSME from the University of Rhode Island.

Peter is president of Candorful and a former Army Captain who served five years on active duty with service in the 82ndAirborne Division and with a deployment to Afghanistan. He is currently a commercial financial risk manager with GE Aviation. Peter has an MBA from Cornell, an MS in Business Analytics from Indiana University, and a BS in Business Administration from Carnegie Mellon.


Welcome to the FourBlock Podcast, a show that examines veteran career transition and the military-civilian divide in the workplace.

General Charles Krulak coined the term "Three Block War" to describe the nature of 21st-century military service defined by peace-keeping, humanitarian aid, and full combat.

But what happens next? Veterans are often unprepared to return home and begin new careers. We call this the Fourth Block. 

FourBlock is a national non-profit that has supported thousands of transitioning service members across the nation in beginning new and meaningful careers. 

Mike Abrams (@fourblock) is an Afghanistan veteran, FourBlock founder, director of the Columbia University Center for Veteran Transition and Integration, and author of two military transition books. He’ll be representing the military transition perspective.

Lindsey Pollak (@lindsaypollak) is a career and workplace expert and New York Times bestselling author of three career advice books. Lindsey will be representing the civilian perspective of this issue. 

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