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The FourBlock Podcast

Mar 23, 2020

Have you ever met someone who had no idea how they came across? Have you ever been that person? How would you know? It can happen often during the military-to-civilian career transition that someone has trouble adapting to different environments or is generally unaware of how they come across in various work cultures.

This week, FourBlock Founder Mike Abrams discusses the importance of developing self-awareness, both at work and in life, to help you better understand other people and understand how you are perceived by others. Mike challenges you to ask two trusted individuals about how you are perceived. How do you come across? Are there ways you can improve how you speak to and interact with others? Are there any military cultural habits that you need to adapt for the civilian world? You may be surprised by the feedback you receive.

We encourage you to check out the video “Feedback is a Gift” by New York Times bestselling author and organizational consultant Simon Sinek. This interview with Simon is part of an online career transition course created in partnership with Columbia University called Find Your Calling: Transition Principles for Returning Veterans


Welcome to the FourBlock Podcast, a show that examines veteran career transition and the military-civilian divide in the workplace.

General Charles Krulak coined the term "Three Block War" to describe the nature of 21st-century military service defined by peace-keeping, humanitarian aid, and full combat.

But what happens next? Veterans are often unprepared to return home and begin new careers. We call this the Fourth Block. 

FourBlock is a national non-profit that has supported thousands of transitioning service members across the nation in beginning new and meaningful careers. 

Mike Abrams (@fourblock) is an Afghanistan veteran, FourBlock founder, director of the Columbia University Center for Veteran Transition and Integration, and author of two military transition books. He’ll be representing the military transition perspective.

Lindsey Pollak (@lindsaypollak) is a career and workplace expert and New York Times bestselling author of three career advice books. Lindsey will be representing the civilian perspective of this issue. 

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